Currently you need to play 30 other maps before you can vote a map again, but that limit is too low in my opinion. It should be 40.

Your opinions? Foibos asked me to open this thread.

I suggest 20. Even 30 is too much I think.

If there are more nice maps it should be 40. What about pandorum? And listen a little more to people who play on server. New Maps! Look at the high map seq, these maps should be removed for ever. Some maps have 500+ since played...

Those maps might be played if there wouldn't be so many lemmings who vote only for stuff where they can make many points without requiring talent. Many may vote the mainstream maps, but that doesn't mean that there wouldn't be a few players who wouldn't like to play the classic stuff from time to time.

I have to admit that I often vote the maps with the lowest "played" rating, so I usually forget about that stuff on the back.


And Mawa, you can not be serious, eh?
Where's the benefit in playing the same maps over and over again?
Don't think that the players would regulate that by themselves, they would vote Spambox, Battlefront, Starreach, Tripleslap as soon as they were available again.
I would not want to play on such a server. Everybody has a single vote, so if I came as a newbie and would like to try some other maps then I technically don't have the chance to get them voted.

You have to force the players to vote something different from time to time, they are addicted to their stuff and need to sober up with something else.

20? hell no!!! 30 is alright with me!

i totally agree with crusha, people should also play maps they don't know. they actually benefit from that since they might learn something they could use on the "popular" maps...

which leads me to another thing pegasus once mentioned... i wish the majority of the regulars would approach a different style from time to time... one that might not deliver a big score, but totally surprises the enemy and therefore helping his or her team even more then spawnkilling with a tank to "prevent" the enemy from attack a certain node...
cuz to be honest, by now i can tell you which player does what on this and that map. it's getting boring! i should write a book with counter-tactics for certain maps seriously -.-
get creative folks! (of course this doesn't include all the players, but indeed the majority)
cuz at the end of the day - it's about having fun! =)

thomasito wrote:


[...]approach a different style from time to time... one that might not deliver a big score, but totally surprises the enemy and therefore helping his or her team even more then spawnkilling with a tank to "prevent" the enemy from attack a certain node...
cuz to be honest, by now i can tell you which player does what on this and that map. it's getting boring! i should write a book with counter-tactics for certain maps seriously -.-
get creative folks! (of course this doesn't include all the players, but indeed the majority)
cuz at the end of the day - it's about having fun! =)

Haha yeah it's a bit pathetic that many people always do the same thing... But I don't, I like to be random ^.^

EDIT: Oh, and about the Re-vote Limit, I agree with both 30 and 40, just don't make it 20.

I dont understand this world of so many rules and restrictions. Just tell me one thing. Why not to put there "1" ?

Ok, map X has just been played, and MOST of people want to play it again (maybe revenge, maybe fun, whatever). Why the heck dont allow them to do that ??? Why you have to tell people what they CAN do and what they CANT do ? Do you think you have the right to tell what is best for them and they have to do it ? I really dont understand it...

And I totally agree with VK. If there will be 40 GOOD maps, ok, lets change it to 40. But in this situation, where there is about 10 good maps which are playable even with few players (in the mornings etc) and about 20 good maps playable with many players (in the afternoons and evenings), I dont understand why such a big number like 40...because that means you have to play at least 10 shitty maps no matter what. And people better leave than to play shitty map...

you are totally missing the point mawa

if there was no re-vote limit, people would vote masterbath, spambox and minus over and over and over again, basically destroying the whole character of the server --> its unique variety of maps!!!

we have spammaps, NV maps, big maps, small maps and all need different tactics to win. and that's good!
removing the revote limit would wipe all nonspam maps away in the blink of an eye, basically turning the server into a spamfest where 2-3 people each match have fun cuz they like to lame - and others are just getting bored being killed over and over and over again.
can u imagine the fight over the ion on osr-tanks-alot for example? or for the mino at minus-tmu? i forecast players will block the vehicle-spawnpoints so that no other can have it and so on....

if some people don't like the current non-spam map - so what! they don't have to play it and come back later and try to lame on their favorite maps.
but not everyone likes to tankcamp or mantalame you know? people from all over the world play on techcom, each and every one of them with their individual playing-style. and that's we all like the server the way it is!

playing the same 5 maps over and over again will even get YOU bored after little time, i promise that! and that's exactly what i was talking about when i said i want ppl to be more creative and not fall into their same habits on the same maps.

i mean of course it is unpleasant for me when i join and discover bridge-of-faith has just been played 2 maps ago... i will unlikely be able to play it that day then... so what? there are other days where i am lucky to be there at the right time! and meanwhile i try to have fun on the other maps (which i have) and do what it takes to help my team win the match

the majority of the players is happy with 30 and that's why we should keep it this way. it is imho the best compromise!

Imagine this scenario with vote limit set to 1:

Players play Battlefront. They like it. Now they think "Hey, let's play it again, that was fun!". Some people vote against it but the majority wins. Some of those who don't want to play it again leave.
Now the round goes pretty well, but in the end join some new players who couldn't play the whole map and they lost, so they want a revenge.
They vote it again. Some of the other ones will vote it again because it's a nice and spammy map to make points. How many of the others wouldn't leave now, hmm?

Might be exaggerated, but the things that the majority of kiddies want is not always the best. On Titan's Freon Server is a revote limit of 8. Believe me, every second match would be either DM-Contrast or DM-Goose if that limit wouldn't prevent it.
It should be much higher there actually. The server has about 50 maps, I guess, but only 10 of them are actually played. The players often vote the maps about which they know every corner, when every pickup respawns and when which player is where after the beginning - it's just boring.
But if you find enough guys to vote one of the rarely played maps, then they all like it and find it interesting to play something that they don't know by heart yet and in which they need to react spontaneous to the situation, even though they wouldn't have chosen that map by their own drive.

Restrictions are necessary, we can't get new players on the server with the same map being played all the time.

Your last sentence is so true:
Shitty map depends on the perspective, I think that most of the )o(-maps are shitty and are likely to leave when they are voted.
And because of the low revote limit do I need to leave very often lately as those maps are too quickly revotable and there are not enough classic-players who can hold against the )o(-lovers.
The high revote limit ensured a good mix between the maptypes, but that is gone now…


EDIT: Thomas was faster. But I think 30 is too low, there are too many )o(-maps in it. Not enough variety to keep me playing.

Well, I think we could speak about it forever, or try it. I really dont think people will vote same maps again and again. BTW masterbath is very boring even after 10 minutes, so I dont understand who would like to play it two times in the row

You correctly wrote that on TechCom many different players play, that also why I think that yours "worst scenario" is not going to happen.

Maybe you are true that "1" is not a good idea, but I think same about "40". At least not until there will be 40 playable and not boring maps on the server...