...is not working out for us.

Reduced strength in air attacks, messed up teleporters from broken building primary nodes to middle roof (no, the new propeller boost isn't better because it leaves you much more vulnerable) and, most of all, the removal of snipers from many nodes has turned this map from a fast and free-form flow to yet another bogged down tank spam. Played it enough times already to reach the verdict that it's worse than the previous one. Only thing good about it are the anti-spam fences put up at the edges of the middle towers and the anti-grav handling tweaks, but it still needs work to become good... again (and, honestly, I don't see what was wrong with the last version to begin with). Please replace it with ONS-StarReach-)o(Edition again.

totally agree! no comeback chance in new version since one cannot get to the middle nodes without being shot by enemy sniper or tank spammer...


to improve the old version, it would be cool to take the following out of new version:

- anti-spam fences
- replace broken-building ion painters with sth else (like shield) - but let the teleporter-exit on middle
- replace hammerhead with manta, that's ok


new version has 4 redeemers, that's ridiculous since 3 redeemers are in the hands of the winning team... there are also ALOT of paladins...
PLUS: I am missing LG and SR in base lockers...



map is no fun at all atm so pls either remove it or replace it with old version at least which had way more possibilities for a comeback...

StarReach-)o(Edition is back. Original thread http://forum.omnipotents.com/showthread.php?t=12742.

Great news!

Now let's talk about ONS-BlockFort-Omni-V2-Beta2... New thread or here?

Foib, I have explicitly forbidden you to change anything about my maps without my permission. You violated that rule more than once now, lately with unallowed renaming of my edits to something that you think to be good and then removing then soundtrack of this map just because YOU don't like it.

I am really pissed. Oh, this is definitely going to be changed back again in the next version and IF YOU EVER TOUCH A MAP BY ME OR EDITED BY ME WITHOUT MY PERMISSION, THEN WAS THAT THE LAST TIME THAT I MADE SOMETHING FOR TECHCOM OR ON YOUR REQUEST.
I feel sorry for the players, but something in your mind must be terribly wrong if you think that you are my boss and that your decision counts while I do the work.

I'm glad you're working for us as for one of the few remaining UT communities with functional server. And I'm sorry I've removed the fancy track KR-Serenity from that edit, but it's almost on every map (like Savo) and it doesn't fit it, yes, in my humble opinion of the admin. The original was silent and I haven't agreed with that track or music there, althought the other changes were perfect. In spite of that you've put it in next version too - and I deleted it. Just the music, with respect to the original without any ambient tones. Just silent space, Earth hundreds miles beneath the battlefield and the sounds of war. Haven't we got some more serious problems? Peace.

It's a matter of principle. I do the whole work so it's about me to choose how I want things to be done. And if you can't accept one of my decisions AND CHANGE IT ON YOUR OWN, without telling me and although I explicitly told you not to do so, then there is from my perspective no reason why I should do the stuff at all.

A warning has been given. The fate is now your own.
Just leave my stuff alone. You can still dispute about things to change and I will consider all arguments, but I arrogate the privilege of having the last word about stuff in my maps and edits.
That also includes the file name. It is purest cynicism that I, who created the map and therefore have it on my HDD, need to download it again because you changed just a marginal thing and then even lose my internet connection because of that download.


Now let's get to the music, although this looks like just a lame excuse to me.
You say it's "almost on every map", but no other map than Savo and StarReach come to my mind, so it's probably far away from being every map. More examples please, if you want this to be considered an argument. You already wanted it to be removed from Savo (and did it there too), and so the more obvious suspicion is, that you just don't like the track and therefore put your personal liking before all other players. I don't say that would be the case, but it pretty looks like that.

And "respect to the original", oh please, you change your mind at your own sweet will, right? Usually I am the one who wants to respect the original while you want to make some gameplay critical changes. Hoverboards in SavoIsland, for example. Where was your "respect to the original" there? I am not saying that the Hoverboards are a bad idea after all, but they don't show respect to the original.

And when I play StarReach tonight, it just felt oppressive. I really had no real motivation to play it anymore in that silence and I could understand that some people started to say that it gets boring and that they wanted it to end. The music makes it a warm and friendly map where you are happy to play, while the silence makes it really cold, something where you don't want to stay.
Absolute silence is NOT a stylistic device, it's just failure of the mapper. Sounds are an essential thing in mapping, they are required to create the mood on the player's side. Some shots are simply not enough to create any mood. Besides that you wouldn't hear them anyway in that height…

That's why I will definitely add it back in the new version and you will NOT change it, if you care about getting new stuff for the server.

We don't have more serious problem, the server runs fine, so you should stop creating new problems. Peace.

Dear Crusha, am I wrong or you're commanding me? I'm kind person and you can publish here almost every your work, so try to respect my few wishes like the no music on that map. We should cooperate and I'd like to, but if you mean I have no right what to change on this server, shutting up and loading anything, then you're wrong.

Ok, if there should be some music, then some better one: Level8 is nice space theme or the KR-Morpheus3. Level8 rather. KR-Serenity is quite common: SavoIsland, Meadowland, maybe Hollon and few more. It belongs to green hills and butterflies.

I don't force you to put my stuff on the server. Feel free to refuse what you want. For my maps apply the rule: take them like they are or don't take them at all.

I ask the original authors for their permission when I edit their maps and if they give me a permission then I (and not automatically everyone else) have the permission to do the edit. If someone else wants to change something on that map, then he either needs my or the original author's permission before he can do so.
Of course noone would take someone to court because of copyright violations in video game maps, but nonetheless one should respect the copyright.


We obviously have some diverging perceptions here. You feel like you have no rights on your server and I feel like you consider me your personal mapping slave who can do all the dirty work and it only stays like that as long as you are content with it.

But after all is from my perspective your acting worse than the other way around.
You have the right not to load my maps and I can be happy or not with that. That would do no harm to anyone.
But if you change something without my permission, then that is worse because you kind of destroy my work. (I know that's a tough term for that, but it describes it pretty well).

So I ask you to leave these few decisions that I can make to me. You can make your own decisions of rejecting or accepting maps or ask our other mappers if they'd do the jobs for you and don't do anything that interferes in my "area of decisions". I can't and won't tell you your server administrative business, so I guess it's only fair if you don't tell me my mapping business.

But don't consider the things that I "publish" here to be your property. I just offer you something that I also offer at other points later. It's nice that you give me a platform for getting first hand feedback, but if you reject a map then that doesn't mean that the map won't be changed any further or published at another place.

I respect your work, please also respect mine in the all-embracing entity.

And yeah, Level8 may be acceptable, if we can have peace then.