cod_maverick wrote:


Great message mave!

dayboo wrote:

Yeah, I was expecting 1 kind of childish response like that, which again leads me back to the point which I made originally, of "not caring, either through sheer inadequacy or just a lack of effort." Sure it's just a clan, just a game, but the point of the topic was to see what the remaining active members think of how Schlot has done in his time here. They can be honest too, because their relation as clan mate will be over in a week, and I doubt many will go on to join FAB or FUB or whatever, since most won't be handle the 150+ ping and even if a European server is bought, the sheer difference of personalities will lead to inevitable problems (can you image VicMackey playing with Slash, Hug or Xavi? Fireworks xD)

U can call my comment whatever u want. I thought it described ur first post rather perfectly, and it was too long to quote. One could argue that ur the one acting childish, since ur using an undercover name.

Idk what Schlot did to u, since hes the only one u seem to be targeting, but I can tell u one thing, if u think that none of us cared, ur sadly mistaking, and have no clue about us. None of us would have accepted leadership if we didnt care about it. There are some things which we dont really care about, one of them being random people like urself, airing their opinions about US or the people in it.

Ah a clan leader myself i know 100 percent of of what it takes to run a clan/community/family of people so i know it is NO EASY TASK to take on.

Frankly if schlot did not love or care for |US| he would of never taken on the responsibility of trying to help run |US|. Running a clan not only takes away part of your life ( in a good way i guess ) but you loose and gain alot in the process and i applaud him for having the guts and courage to be able to take on the task.

I find it quite sad that you can come here and attack someone who has done nothing but helped US succeed..It is more then a clan is more then just a legacy its not about trying to remember who you are its about or what you did its about a family and keeping a family alive and that friendship that people have built. Its more then a game it is making friends and having fun. Personally i have loved watching/seeing |US| in the past year and been honored to be involved in many things and so glad to have gotten to know all these great |US| friends.. All these people apart of my life and shit some i talk to even everyday.. All the US friends i have made have only shown me he has added GREAT people to |US| but also made US a place i would want to be.. Now without having never met schlot and seeing what he has done for US i would not be sitting here and saying hes the fucking man XOXOXOX |US| would of never been where it is today with the help of schlot and its great members. He has done great in my eyes and everyone here can agree sorry you don't see that to bad you never to see then the real side of US and its greatness.

Anyways with that in mind I LOVE THE |US| GUYS and everything that comes with it i am honored to have met some of you and to have you in my lives.. May the Family we all have know and have made continue to be even great then it is now!

xoxoox Nikki

bella-- wrote:
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Thanks for giving your view. But I must pick up on this point - "so they kinda saved our butts from that responsibility and risk". Could you tell me, in your view, exactly what responsibility was taken on? Like I said in the first post, he didn't pay for a server, he didn't partake in any tournaments, he didn't recruit very well, and the reputation of the clan has been tatters for well over a year now. Again, people rightly think that this is just a game but essentially this is how a gaming clan leader is judged, so what is his score here?

narko1985 wrote:
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Schlot has not done anything to me, I have no personal vendetta or anything. I say his name because out of the 3 acting leaders he seems to be at the forefront, although if you wish to put yourself in the firing line then I can quote your name instead on his behalf. If you don't care about what outsiders think, then how do you strive to improve? Because you can trust me when I say that I am not the only outsider with these opinions. If you can't take criticism, better to live in your own room, lock yourself up and live life as an introvert.

fabnikki wrote:
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Nice to see you here, Nikki. But could you define for me what you mean by success? Btw, I must say that if this FUB thing is going to work, you got to buy a european server. However, the majority of the current FAB contingent will still play on the American server, because most of them are latino. Which means you will be left with a european server with FUBs playing on, which effectively means you are paying for US clan to have a server for themselves, rofl

Anyway, so far we have got 1 response from a current/ex member (Runner) that answers my original question. So let's get some more? I'm addressing people like; Rhymes, Xavi, Slash, Izzy, Hug, Migma, Asif, Skywalker, etc. If they are as positive as Runners, then maybe us outsiders are wrong lolz

dayboo wrote:

Schlot has not done anything to me, I have no personal vendetta or anything. I say his name because out of the 3 acting leaders he seems to be at the forefront, although if you wish to put yourself in the firing line then I can quote your name instead on his behalf. If you don't care about what outsiders think, then how do you strive to improve? Because you can trust me when I say that I am not the only outsider with these opinions. If you can't take criticism, better to live in your own room, lock yourself up and live life as an introvert.


Why would we wanna strive to improve anything for outsiders? Even in this small community, theres so much bullshitting going on everywhere, so why improve anything for the bullshitters sake? We strive to have fun with our friends, both US and non-US. I can take critisism just fine, in some cases I just choose to not give a flying fuck about it, this being one of those cases.

dayboo wrote:
bella-- wrote:
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Thanks for giving your view. But I must pick up on this point - "so they kinda saved our butts from that responsibility and risk". Could you tell me, in your view, exactly what responsibility was taken on? Like I said in the first post, he didn't pay for a server, he didn't partake in any tournaments, he didn't recruit very well, and the reputation of the clan has been tatters for well over a year now. Again, people rightly think that this is just a game but essentially this is how a gaming clan leader is judged, so what is his score here?


You dont know the fact that he didnt pay for a server first of all i love how people assume they always know what is going on with everything.. Frankly when no one does.. Why does his actions needs to be based of of bullet points.. What will posting here his actions make a difference? Seriously there is enough shit to deal with then to try to list each line item of what he did. As far as a reputation goes? I said earlier WTF is a reputation again i said earlier its nothing about what you leave behind it about what you can do and what you bring to the table.. Clearly he and everyone did all they needed to do and frankly did it well or US would of died years ago..

Frankly responsibilities as a clan leader are endless.. try to manage over 100 peoples thoughts opinions, comments complaints, issues to solve.. rules procedure to do over.. Admins to talk to posts to be made. Things to be updated, people that want to speak.. fights that need to be solved.. Admin meetings, war meetings.. war planning.. Recruiting.. Shit sake the list goes on i mean shit its the tip of the iceberg shall i spell it out even more?


narko1985 wrote:
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Schlot has not done anything to me, I have no personal vendetta or anything. I say his name because out of the 3 acting leaders he seems to be at the forefront, although if you wish to put yourself in the firing line then I can quote your name instead on his behalf. If you don't care about what outsiders think, then how do you strive to improve? Because you can trust me when I say that I am not the only outsider with these opinions. If you can't take criticism, better to live in your own room, lock yourself up and live life as an introvert.

You have no vandetta yet all your posts pertain or go back to a certain "Schlot" hmm.. Well clearly then your writing implies that you have some anger maybe.. some kind of something.. About taking nothing personal i thankfully know when to draw the line between game and life and and i could care less and everyone who knows me knows this i dont give a rats ass how people think i need to run things in general.. If i was scared of these thoughts an opinions i would of shot myself in the head along time ago. Being and working with a community of people you have to be ready to take it all on and deal with it all not run and hide.. if people want shit to change they talk about it like adults and shit changes.. Why sweep under the rug and not deal with it?

fabnikki wrote:
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Nice to see you here, Nikki. But could you define for me what you mean by success? Btw, I must say that if this FUB thing is going to work, you got to buy a european server. However, the majority of the current FAB contingent will still play on the American server, because most of them are latino. Which means you will be left with a european server with FUBs playing on, which effectively means you are paying for US clan to have a server for themselves, rofl

Success as in the relationships and community built. here you go thinking success is a bullet point of accomplishments you do.. yet shit needs to be looked further again and see the fact the community of people that was made in US is still strong and all still talk.. That is a success they are a community and still going at it.. Unless giving up and just letting shit go as is. Success is more then measurements its the story built along the way.. About people or us playing in our sever people join to play not just because they have a good ping but because they want to play with their friends? Frankly yes sure ping sometimes pisses some off but again people can look past that and say hey fuck it i want to play with my friends i dont care where.. About what i am doing or if i am moving anything is again an assumption i am going to guess you got along with the above assumption earlier. If you want to know whats going on in FAB then ask me dont assume you know whats going on when you dont please..

dayboo wrote:
bella-- wrote:
/snip/
Thanks for giving your view. But I must pick up on this point - "so they kinda saved our butts from that responsibility and risk". Could you tell me, in your view, exactly what responsibility was taken on? Like I said in the first post, he didn't pay for a server, he didn't partake in any tournaments, he didn't recruit very well, and the reputation of the clan has been tatters for well over a year now. Again, people rightly think that this is just a game but essentially this is how a gaming clan leader is judged, so what is his score here?

narko1985 wrote:
/snip/
Schlot has not done anything to me, I have no personal vendetta or anything. I say his name because out of the 3 acting leaders he seems to be at the forefront, although if you wish to put yourself in the firing line then I can quote your name instead on his behalf. If you don't care about what outsiders think, then how do you strive to improve? Because you can trust me when I say that I am not the only outsider with these opinions. If you can't take criticism, better to live in your own room, lock yourself up and live life as an introvert.

fabnikki wrote:
/snip/
Nice to see you here, Nikki. But could you define for me what you mean by success? Btw, I must say that if this FUB thing is going to work, you got to buy a european server. However, the majority of the current FAB contingent will still play on the American server, because most of them are latino. Which means you will be left with a european server with FUBs playing on, which effectively means you are paying for US clan to have a server for themselves, rofl

Anyway, so far we have got 1 response from a current/ex member (Runner) that answers my original question. So let's get some more? I'm addressing people like; Rhymes, Xavi, Slash, Izzy, Hug, Migma, Asif, Skywalker, etc. If they are as positive as Runners, then maybe us outsiders are wrong lolz



You dont know the fact that he didn't pay for a server first of all i love how people assume they always know what is going on with everything.. Frankly when no one does.. Why does his actions needs to be based of of bullet points.. What will posting here his actions make a difference? Seriously there is enough shit to deal with then to try to list each line item of what he did. As far as a reputation goes? I said earlier WTF is a reputation again i said earlier its nothing about what you leave behind it about what you can do and what you bring to the table.. Clearly he and everyone did all they needed to do and frankly did it well or US would of died years ago..

Frankly responsibilities as a clan leader are endless.. try to manage over 100 peoples thoughts opinions, comments complaints, issues to solve.. rules procedure to do over.. Admins to talk to posts to be made. Things to be updated, people that want to speak.. fights that need to be solved.. Admin meetings, war meetings.. war planning.. Recruiting.. Shit sake the list goes on i mean shit its the tip of the iceberg shall i spell it out even more?

You have no vandetta yet all your posts pertain or go back to a certain "Schlot" hmm.. Or maybe its just your not happy with something.. I am trying to figure this out.. Well clearly then your writing implies that you have some anger maybe.. some kind of something.. About taking nothing personal i thankfully know when to draw the line between game and life and and i could care less and everyone who knows me knows this i dont give a rats ass how people think i need to run things in general.. If i was scared of these thoughts an opinions i would of shot myself in the head along time ago. Being and working with a community of people you have to be ready to take it all on and deal with it all not run and hide.. if people want shit to change they talk about it like adults and shit changes.. Why sweep under the rug and not deal with it? I like to take my memebrs thoughts and ideas and make them real.. Frankly like Narko said why make things better for outsiders work to improve the family we have now..

Success as in the relationships and community built. here you go thinking success is a bullet point of accomplishments you do.. yet shit needs to be looked further again and see the fact the community of people that was made in US is still strong and all still talk.. That is a success they are a community and still going at it.. Unless giving up and just letting shit go as is. Success is more then measurements its the story built along the way.. About people or us playing in our sever people will join to play not just because they have a good ping but because they want to play with their friends? Frankly yes sure ping sometimes pisses some off but again people can look past that and say hey fuck it i want to play with my friends i dont care where..I have done things to the server since to makes things better.. but you would not know about that i guess? About what i am doing for fab server or if i am moving anything is again an assumption i am going to guess you got along with the above assumption earlier. If you want to know whats going on in FAB then ask me dont assume you know whats going on..

And i am curious to know why you want outsiders to comment on the situation i mean what are you looking to prove here? Why is it they need to weigh in?

What do leaders actually do? I don't really know, but they have read the 2 pages of this topic for free. Something I will not do for less than 100€.

Hello everyone love you all

dude why did you bother?

If anything matters, it is fun when we play together.Do you know after we created 3A, all of us still played together everynight and had really fun.It doesnt matter which tag we wear, still brothers.And as for US, never had a bad reputation, and it's always been the champion in deep down for me.

All off you guys know that it was a little part of US who won the tournoment without JJ schlot mave ..so much talented players i cant even remember.

and you forgot Jack the frenchy, please!