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rykkiPM
#61
Jun 10, 2013 5:17 PM
Non-member Joined: May 19, 2012
Posts: 289
duloks wrote:
Our clan is lead by respect and friendship not by wins on tournaments or wars, swat 4 servers or TS servers. We didn't die we adapted and made new friends. We hang out, talk, laugh, cry together. That is the real purpose of a clan to be there for each other. People may not have been active but we still send each other happy birthday notes on Facebook, say hey how are you from time to time etc. It is the amount of friends you have made that determines the greatness of a clan not how many ours you have played, tournaments or wars you have won.
Now as far as our leaders are concerned they realized it is far more important to find a way to save the friendship than to save the server. And that my friend is what great leaders do!!!


Best post of them all.

daybooPM
#62
Jun 10, 2013 9:28 PM
Non-member Joined: May 17, 2013
Posts: 8
littlecub wrote:
duloks wrote:
Our clan is lead by respect and friendship not by wins on tournaments or wars, swat 4 servers or TS servers. We didn't die we adapted and made new friends. We hang out, talk, laugh, cry together. That is the real purpose of a clan to be there for each other. People may not have been active but we still send each other happy birthday notes on Facebook, say hey how are you from time to time etc. It is the amount of friends you have made that determines the greatness of a clan not how many ours you have played, tournaments or wars you have won.
Now as far as our leaders are concerned they realized it is far more important to find a way to save the friendship than to save the server. And that my friend is what great leaders do!!!


Best post of them all.

Long time, sorry. Gotta pick out this post as there some very flawed arguments. First of all, I have emphasized many times that the amount of wars you play, tournaments etc is not the be all and end all to determine a clan's performance. It's just one relevant sector, of which US has not done anything of note, which is why I brought it up. The point about SWAT4 and TS servers and the responsibility of funding and taking time out in keeping them active (yeah that means playing alone sometimes so players come to server) has also been emphasized enough.

Onto the next point - yes, making friends is a great thing, but lets not kid ourselves here. This is a gaming clan, so you make friends and have fun generally by playing on the server together. If you want to meet people and add them on facebook, but don't wanna play the actual game, your better off going on Omegle (google if you don't know).

For the last point, I really cannot see the link between not saving the server and the "emotional" sacrifices over saving friendships. Don't forget that it was an indian ex member who started the idea of a facebook group and helped run it, there was no inspired leadership behind that decision either.

To sign off, the point of this topic was to ask what the leader has done in his time here. If somebody else had stepped in their shoes over the past years, would things have been better or worse? Would people have even noticed if there had been no leadership over the past years - would it have really made a difference? Considering the responsiblity that was taken on board (explained numerous times covering a range of factors)? Just think abt it, and enjoy life in FAB. Also, treat Michal good. I know he hasn't liked your ideas and the way things have changed in FAB but I'm sure most people in his situation who have been active and loyal, and seen a group come in and seen alot of things change would react the same ;] (No, I'm not him).
neon29dkPM
#63
Jun 11, 2013 10:49 AM
Non-member Joined: Jan 20, 2012
Posts: 14
Don't think you want my views on this
duloksPM
#64
Jun 11, 2013 5:31 PM
«|US|»DULOKS*AC Assistant Captain - Joined: Feb 10, 2010
Posts: 186
If you refer to past few years i can say that we were for a long time rated as top swat 4 server on game tracker, or we were in top 10 with 3A, 2 house of pain servers, FAB, FUN and so on. All the way to the point when game spy sold the rights to some other firm, and they decided to stop master server support for the game.
It took markie boy from markmods and others a long time to create new master server. By the time that happened people lost interest and had difficulties with server list fix (ppl got kicked, game crashes and so on).
We (leaders and admins) discussed constantly map rotation, rules, bad behavior by players, admins, members in admin panel and had our opinions listened, argued and decided mostly as a team.
Now if you ask what did Schlot do past year here is a copy of one original post by him in admin panel:
Jul 16, 2012 7:36 AM
Hola,
since I personally prefer having a server with many admins providing service rather than one where there are mostly just admins online during the rush hours I suggest three further admin candidates:
Roska
Troczu
Nikki
Share your thoughts
Cheers
Schlot
It clearly shows the interest he had in having players and admins online during the whole day not just most played time.
As far as merge goes it is better for all to have a server with us who want to play then 3 or 4 servers that cant be filed. It is known that over all number of players dropped drastically and this move was purely for keeping the game alive. And last i can say that from your point of view we can all be blamed for things you mentioned not just one man. He just respected over all decision we as a clan made. And we still are a clan as you can see by the number of posts you had on your question!

brunette--PM
#65
Jun 11, 2013 6:06 PM
Non-member Joined: Apr 25, 2011
Posts: 93
Sry my curiosity ....

Let's suppose u got all da answers u want ....then ?

Where are u willing to get with these ?

Why does he really bother u?

What did he do to u ?

What kinda answer can really change ur mind /or is there any answers that u'd accept ?

What's the meaning of questioning other clans leader when u have never been in his shoes ?

Maybe it is ur turn to answer some questions too but pls start with ;

Who am I?

Why am I undercover?

Is it really necessary for me to be undercover ?/What am I scared of ?

If u manage to give all the answers to these feel free to contact me from either TS or FB ...

P.S :I can't guarantee to accept ur answers or to find them reasonable enough like u have done so far ...tc pls

Oww and about Michal... is this Fab forum ?or did u somehow get lost?
Maybe u should first be sure of his behaivors on server and then come and support ,just a friendly advice ...

As a result u should be really doing these convo's in ur clan with ur leader (sry Nikki nothing to do with u dear ) .. U have lost the key there ,we all have ours






Last edited by: brunette-- Jun 11, 2013 6:16 PM
firefly1988PM
#66
Jun 12, 2013 6:23 PM
«|US|»Firefly*AS Assistant Sergeant - Joined: Sep 04, 2010
Posts: 613
dayboo wrote:
If you want to meet people and add them on facebook, but don't wanna play the actual game, your better off going on Omegle (google if you don't know).


Tried that, all dicks there

«|US|»Narko*CEO, Aug 25, 2011 at 9:47pm
Gees, Admins really ARE useless. Pff...
firefly1988PM
#67
Jun 12, 2013 6:26 PM
«|US|»Firefly*AS Assistant Sergeant - Joined: Sep 04, 2010
Posts: 613
swat4news wrote:
Don't think you want my views on this


I might not want them, but you are still free to share them.
«|US|»Narko*CEO, Aug 25, 2011 at 9:47pm
Gees, Admins really ARE useless. Pff...
firefly1988PM
#68
Jun 12, 2013 6:26 PM
«|US|»Firefly*AS Assistant Sergeant - Joined: Sep 04, 2010
Posts: 613
And please, can we stop doing this? I have a feeling Schlot is groing a bigger ego every page that we write
«|US|»Narko*CEO, Aug 25, 2011 at 9:47pm
Gees, Admins really ARE useless. Pff...
daybooPM
#69
Jun 12, 2013 10:03 PM
Non-member Joined: May 17, 2013
Posts: 8
bella-- wrote:
Maybe it is ur turn to answer some questions too but pls start with ;

Who am I?

Why am I undercover?

Is it really necessary for me to be undercover ?/What am I scared of ?


I'm not undercover, I don't need to be. I play with some of you everyday, or atleast hear you on TS. Cue the quick-fire brain thinking of: who is this guy?!

Anyway I can see the focus has shifted onto something else which means the thread has expired. I've got some member views which is good, even if the actual question was never directly answered. You can lock up this thread if you want to. Ta, see you in {FAB}.
brunette--PM
#70
Jun 13, 2013 2:42 AM
Non-member Joined: Apr 25, 2011
Posts: 93
dayboo wrote:
bella-- wrote:
Maybe it is ur turn to answer some questions too but pls start with ;

Who am I?

Why am I undercover?

Is it really necessary for me to be undercover ?/What am I scared of ?


I'm not undercover, I don't need to be. I play with some of you everyday, or atleast hear you on TS. Cue the quick-fire brain thinking of: who is this guy?!

Anyway I can see the focus has shifted onto something else which means the thread has expired. I've got some member views which is good, even if the actual question was never directly answered. You can lock up this thread if you want to. Ta, see you in {FAB}.



ehehhe u really made me laugh ...Why should I sit and spend time on thinking who u r, u aren't that important ... If u r brave enough ;give it a go and tell it ..we do know u r FAB or u were and we do know u r somehow playing with some of us on server too but isn't that sneaky of u ha?.. Anyway since u r on TS with us just open a private chat and I'll tell u all u wanna know but I don't believe u can even do that ....

Tc..
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